a jw that is probably irregular, they don't really attend meetings, they are not up on anything going on, they may even seem like they are faded but they are not, they are just slackers.
a jw that is impervious to the f.o.g.
(ok maybe it bums them, but they are too lazy and self serving to do otherwise).
I have known people "out" for years... DF'd.... doing whatever, as if they are not JW's....
but always thinking it "was the truth" (in a weird way) in the back of their mind, and maybe going to come back "to be with their family".....
Emotional, social blackmail.... that is the hook.
This is a very sweet article, and it puts into words what many of us feel like.
"I found this quote from the July 2009 issue of Awake! (published by Jehovah’s Witnesses) noteworthy: “No one should be forced to worship in a way that he finds unacceptable or be made to choose between his beliefs and his family.”
Judah always has a smile for anyone and everyone. It’s the cutest thing to watch her, her eyes intent on learning. All I know is… I can’t imagine ever turning my back on my children.
Neither can I, Stephanie... and that is why we are all out, we have love... true love.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulswb2avxvc.
let's set aside our differences for the moment and appreciate this excellent documentary cedars put together that should prove to be an invaluable tool in helping to expose the child abuse issues in the organization.. i was humbled to be able to help with this project on such an important subject, though my part in it was insignificant..
This was absolutely amazing and very professional. Thank you to all involved for the hours it must have taken to produce this.
The most crucial pieces of evidence, quotes and experiences were put together in an uncluttered, clear and 'hit the nail on the head' way. Great questions were asked that have to make the people with a conscience have to think.
I enjoyed the music, great job, and the use of different scenery that was used to break up the different topics.... good photography. The reader, of the documents and scriptures is very good also, I give my hats off & thanks to him also.
The 3 countries, the estimates of how many pedophiles, this was all put together in a very logical, simple, fresh and powerful way.
Thank you Lloyd Evans for the great job! It will be historical.
long story, short story.
grew up on a farm, went to bethel, married a sister and left bethel.
found ttatt after my cousin died refusing a blood transfusion.
Congratulations jehobi, welcome to the light.
Like Bonsai said, perhaps the dam (of information) will soon break!
Welcome! Cha Ching!
this is the first year i have not been at a summer assembly.. the friends here locally just got back from the regional in our area.. they mostly took their vacation time from work to attend.. while they were gone i had an epiphany...... why is it that the rank and file take their summer vacation time to attend an assembly (we have all heard this hammered in from the platform) whereas the governing body attend as part of their "work".. it cant be as simple as "well, they are giving talks" because there are many brothers that give talks from the rank and file also who have used up precious vacation hours and drug their entire family there plus give their parts.. or what about other brothers and sisters who volunteer and clean at the assembly.
on vacation.. so the pubs.
travel at their own expense, pay for their own rooms and food, and give parts and it is supposed to be viewed as their vacation.. the gb and c.o.s travel to the same assembly and stay in provided for accomadations, give a talk or two and they are "working".. what is that about?.
i didn't see an introduction forum anywhere but i thought it would be weird to start posting without first introducing myself so, here we are.
i'm 15, and i've been looking for a place to discuss my thoughts on the religion that i'm pretty much stuck in at the moment.
my mom and dad divorced over their different beliefs over a year ago (my mom is jw and my dad is an very knowledgeable apostate, so you can see how they would fight over it), and since then i've stopped believing altogether.. just thought i'd say hello.
Hey Thomas, good for you!
Hopefully, being so young, you will have time to untangle your brain from 'the wicked web WT weaves' in it's attempts to deceive... and be able to lead a cult free life.
Make friends with people outside the JW's, young and old, join clubs, talk to teachers at school, and get closer to your dad. Enjoy life, and MOST of all... do not feel guilty whilest doing so.... but be careful, haha!
You are only 15, how I wish..... I am now older, just found out about the lies the WT told 5 years ago. My husband and kids got out too! I can't look back, just go forward, and learn the lessons from the past, right?
Like Faydunaway said, everyone here can relate, and you will have a sounding board, a place to ask questions, seek answers and we all understand what it is like to be there.
Take care, cha ching!
this is my first post.
i really feel i need to leave the jw's rather than go along pretending everything is perfect etc.
no friends, me at work.
this is my first post.
i really feel i need to leave the jw's rather than go along pretending everything is perfect etc.
no friends, me at work.
OMG pale emperor, so sorry for you.. Welcome here, at least you will be able to express yourself & know that the people you are telling cashmere relate, right?
I guess I find myself wondering if I could live like that.. Or WANT to live like that???
Is your wife sincere, or just a shallow user? I hate to sound harsh, but reality can be a "beep".....
Once you find out /decide if you can stomach this most wonderful, happy, honest organization in the world, Then the getting decisions can be made.. And don't think that "this is a'local' problem"... It's everywhere.
Good luck!
today is friday.
so let's see something refreshing on the new june 2016 study wt.
tight pants!.
pattern of excuses.
example #1. blame the bible !.
proclaimer's book*** jv chap.
Thank you again, Terry!
I love the title! Governing Body as Lying Liars who Lie.
Thank you for spending your time finding all these quotes!
So many people make excuses for them: "They are so good hearted" "They work so hard" or even this lame, stupid, moronic one (my JW sister gave) "Don't tell anybody this, but I think they are just a bunch of little old men who might have alzheimers" Why is she listening to them!!???? Really? Go down to a rest home, and listen to someone with Alzheimers! Base your life on what they tell you????
They had the same pattern of reasoning when it came to 1975. Blame the publishers for getting too excited! Same b.s. from the same mouths.
How many people can get their hands on these publications? Or have the time? Keep running on the hamster wheel.... Run, run, run!
Do.... not.... sit....with.... men.... of.... lies....
